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j0
Posted Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:13 PM


 

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After having both shoulders replaced and moving to a warmer climate I still have trouble with pain. My doctors are willing to help me out with a prescription for a hot tub but I'm not sure if that will work? Let alone they have asked me to find out which spa maker is sponored by AF along with obtaining some type of form letter for medicare. If anyone has any information on Hot Tubs, form letters, or the best AF sponsored tubs let me know?! Thanks!
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Mark0
Posted Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:37 PM


 

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Hope this helps. There is a company I have mentioned a few times here who is making great strides with arthritis and chronic pain. The company is called HealthSonix (they have several websites, but their main one is HealthSonix.com and then from there you can learn about all the things I'm going to mention). They have two major products. The first one is called ZingiberRx - which is a joint and muscle cream. It has worked incredibly well for me and others I know. But don't take my word for it - they recently announced they are now using ZingiberRx in study groups for chronic pain and RA so clearly it is working for people with major constant pain.

The second product they have is AquaSonix. This is basically where they take a machine that produces sound waves, submerge it in a warm water therapy pool. You can see the clinical trials of this on their web site - but they are astounding. It is over 80% success rates in most cases. It also happens that they have a home version of the sound therapy device called the enSonix@home. I have one of the original ones and used it on some joint pain - I was blown away because nothing else had touched the pain. Now it's completely gone. But my point of mentioning this here is they are about to release their Generation 2 enSonix@home. This will be available with an attachment that allows you to use it in your own bathtub to simulate the same results as the full blown pool therapy sessions. The one I have - the original one, you just use outside of the water - i.e. sitting on your couch you put the pads on your knee for example.

My understanding is the unit is covered by Medicare with a doctors prescription. I'm sure you could use it in a hot tub as well - maybe for further benefit. But I would encourage you to look into it, talk to the people at HealthSonix and get some feedback. Unfortunately right now their therapy sessions are only available in Canada, but both ZingiberRx and the enSonix@home unit are sold anywhere. There is going to be a infomercial for the enSonix@home running later this year, but you should be able to buy it in a month or so. You can pre-order it right now. Good luck
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DeeAnn
Posted Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:56 PM


 

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j0, you should contact your nearest physical therapy department or your pharmacy. They should both be able to give you information regarding the best hot tub and any insurance coverage. They won't have an interested in the company like posters here might have. Do you have a gym near you that you could go sit in one for a while to see how you feel?

Ann
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Mark0
Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:40 PM


 

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Sorry - didn't mean for my info to sound like an endorsement. I primarily responded to the question because it had to do with water therapy and the question was about a hot tub. From research I have done the hot tubs do provide some temporary relief, but nothing long lasting. So was just trying to share the results of the research I had done - because we looked at a lot of different non pharmacologic options. None had as high clinical results and I experienced those results too. It worked well for me with some bad joint pain and for some others I know - one who had chronic back pain. It's effects thus far have been permanent. In the end I just provide the info and hopefully that can help. The enSonix@home unit is FDA approved. So just mention that because I know there are a lot of "gimmick" products out there - I've seen a lot of them. But again, the info is all there - whatever j0 decides to do with it.. In the end I guess we all ultimately endorse whatever works for us.
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sus perry
Posted Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:09 AM


 

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well, i have ra for 16 years 6 years ago i bought a house for that purpose of putting in a hot tub (spa) i have one above ground..fiberglass with cedar sides...common style..and yes it does help my joints...but research getting one before you do, because it is way more work than i ever expected...you have to change the water regularly, which means pumping it out..i get around this alot by putting th hose in it and letting it run over for awhile..(dragging the hose!problem).and the chemicals need to be checked and kept at certain levels ( you can hire someone to come in and do some of this!)...but this is my biggest problem is getting the cover on and off...its a big struggle,like fighting a shark/ but if you have someone to help...thats great. and after you get out of the tub...u then have to run in and take a shower to get all the clorine off..or u will dry up like a leaf...and dont forget the fence you have to have around it....and to get repairs done are big $$...thats my story.
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Mark0
Posted Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:53 PM


 

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The Gen2 of enSonix@home product will come with an attachment you can use in your tub so that you can do AquaSonix therapy right at home in your tub.  My be a much less costly alternative to a hot tub.  To my knowledge, hot-tubs in general don't have clinical studies done to tell you how much benefit you will gain from the thousands of dollars it will cost you. 

Go to www.innovativehs.com and click on ensonix at the bottom.  Also check out AquaSonix therapy on the same sight as that is what they are now providing with the enSonix device so you can treat yourself at home.  ON the enSonix site look at the clinical results. 

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sus perry
Posted Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:01 AM


 

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Yes there are units you can put into your bath tub, but most people with Ra, no longer can get down that low/ and there isn't really any space to actually exercise.
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mike mccarville
Posted Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:00 AM


 

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lol.

sus, i have the same problem too with the cover.  my parents have a hottub and it helps with my mom's RA (and mine too - I use it when I visit).  My dad takes care of the hot tub, and helps my mom in and out.

The cover would be impossible for my mom to get off alone.  You need to be able to get the cover off to enjoy.

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