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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:02 AM


 

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chris 2 (11/18/2008)


The most painful one for me, though, didn't concern RA. My son, who is now 32, has petit mal epilepsy and has since he was a young child. I was called to his school one day for a conference with his 2nd grade teacher who told me,"I don't think he has epilepsy at all - he'seither lazy or not getting enough sleep at night!" I think that's the closest I've ever come to actually slapping anybody!



Chris,
People used to tell my mom that I didn't have arthritis but was just limping because I was imitating her. We also heard the "it's all in her head" argument quite a bit from teachers. A lot of them never considered that it was backed up by lab results, or that any child in their right mind would not willingly go get her knees drained unless she was in severe pain and desperate for relief. It's amazing how easily people dismiss childrens' illnesses as something else.
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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:49 AM


 

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Some of the worst comments I have received are:

1.  You worked all week, why can't you go to the Pet Lovers convention with us this weekend?  My response is because I worked all week, don't feel like going out. 

2. If you have the energy to clean house, why do you not get out and go someplace with us? My response was and is, I have priorities and I delegate how I choose to use my energy and cleaning house is a priority.

3. From a co-worker who is about as sensitive as a snake, "What's your problem, why are you using a cane?  That's ridiculous, you can't be that bad."  My response, well, I didn't have one.

4. Last but not least, "You really shouldn't be taking all of those drugs, they can't possibly be good for you.  Try the natural approach, exercise, drink lots of water, eat right and you will feel better." 

Schnauzer Cloud & 1 Thunderhead

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:42 AM


 

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this one wasn't to me. my aunt took me aside and told me my boyfriend needed to get his S... together. the family didn't appreciate him being so quiet and uninvolved. i said it looked like he'd just herniated another disc, during field training, and he'd worked two 18 hour days in a row and he wasn't feeling that great. she just said he was too young for that bs and to stop making excuses..
he's 33 and has degenerative disc disease i guess. anyway he keeps herniating discs it seems like and it's pretty painful. and he's in the army doing things like cq with 24 hour duty days.
i was not impressed. i'm still waiting for an apology.
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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:08 AM


 

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Wow. I feel like we all have gotten some duzies here. There are two that stick out in my mind. The first was just a few months ago while I was out shopping with my dad in a grocery store. I was using my cane and limping due to the fact that my right knee isn't stable and chronically swollen and painful and at the same time my left ankle was letting me know it was still there by throbbing. Well, this little boy, probably around 4 or 6years old saw me walking and asked his mom why I was walking like that. Her answer, and loud enough for me and others around her to hear, was: "SHE GOT SHOT BY A GANG, STAY AWAY FROM HER". That was so uncalled for and upsetting for me, I don't belong to a gang, never have and never will. I would never think that of someone. I have to wonder what type of life that family has if that's her response to seeing someone walking with a cane.
The other one was when I was in 7th grade and was required to take French, my teacher would not take papers if the holes were ripped, but that day I couldn't open my binder (she required a 3ring binder for her class) b/c my wrists and fingers were in a flair so I had to rip it out to hand it in. She got everyone's attention and said "THAT SHE DOESN'T TAKE LAZINESS IN HER CLASS, (pointed me out) AND THAT I WAS GETTING A ZERO FOR THE ASSIGNMENT." Needless to day I went home and told my mom what happened, who immediately called the school to complain. I got an apology the next day in front of the class from her and I didn't have trouble with her again.
Ok, so there's one more from HS, but it's not a comment but an action. I was able to leave my classes early so I wouldn't have to be in the hallways with the other kids (the school was tired of having to pay for dr visits b/c I broke my wrists all the time in the halls). I was on crutches one day due to my knee or ankle, can't remember which one or it could have been both, were in a bad flair, when these 2 kids came and kicked my crutches out from under me and walked off laughing about it. I managed to stay standing, how I'm not sure, at that moment one of the nicest teachers came around the corner and saw that my crutches were on the floor and asked what happened. She saw and heard the 2 kids laughing and put 2 and 2 together. They got inschool suspension and I finished my day in classes. I got the last laugh there. I didn't laugh about it then as I was upset and hurt, but looking back I can laugh at it.
I can relate to the "it's all in your head", "you're too young to have ra" I wish I was too young to have ra but here I am and I have it, and the looks people give when I use my handicap tag or the motorized carts in the stores. Just the other day I was out with my mom when an older guy looked me up and down while I was using one of the carts in Walmart and he made a comment "she doesn't need one of those, she just faking needing it" I had both my canes with me still, they were leaning on my chest so I moved them so he could see both of them, and kept moving along.
I have come to really not like going out, but I know I have to. I try to ignore people's comments, but sometimes it's not an easy thing to do. People, our loved ones included can be most insensitive. It's our loved ones who seem to hurt us the most. I don't wish this monster on anyone, but if these people (anyone who's made nasty or insensitive comments or actions) had one day with 1/2 the pain,stiffness and other challenges we face, maybe just maybe they would understand a bit better.
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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:58 AM


 

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This comment came from my mother in law.  I really do not think that you have RA - I think you just have edema.  I have edema and I have arthritis and I really think you only have edema!

Gotta love it!

Always,

Lulu

 

I may have RA but RA does not have ME!!!

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:00 AM


 

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Add mine to the list.

An older friend just wrote to me and asked at the end of her note "if I still had RA."  And then she recommended the gin raisins (AGAIN!)  If I were allowed to drink, I think I'd just hit the gin and forget about the raisins.

Another time it was not a comment, but dirty looks when I waited to use the handicapped restroom stall.  I could see what was going through their heads "But you don't look sick."

And my SIL continually sends me newspaper clippings about the latest cures for Arthritis.  She tells me she knows how painful it is, and then she shows me her knobby OA finger.

Gramma Ellie

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:51 AM


 

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I had to respond to this.  I don't even have a diagnosis yet, but I've got a list.  Some don't have to do with RA, but other issues I have.

I went to my doctor for migraines.  He gave me naproxen. I told him it wouldn't work, I've taken similar things.  They didn't work, he said WELL THEN YOU MUST NOT HAVE MIGRAINES.

while my now ex-husband was in Iraq, and I had a one and three year old all by myself (well i didn't have them by myself, I was taking care of them by myself LOL), I told him on the phone one day I may need a higher dose of anti-depressant, and I was very tired all the time.  He said CAN'T YOU JUST...TRY TO FEEL BETTER?

I've always heard and got the looks of SHE'S LAZY, JUST GET SOME REST, IT CAN'T BE THAT BAD, QUIT COMPLAINING, IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD...

Since I've been having this latest flare of ...whatever...I've heard GET SOME MORE REST...OH YOU'RE TOO YOUNG...IT'S PROBABLY THE FLU!!!...

One time, my hands were hurting.  I am sensitive (very sensitive) to cold, and I mentioned to my &*(&^y co-worker that they hurt, and she said OKAY I GET YOU MIGHT BE CHILLY, BUT COLD TO THE BONE, I DOUBT IT.

And the advise from my two bosses who apparently think they're doctors, is getting on my nerves.

Ah well, at least once I get a diagnosis I'll tell everyone to shut up

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:26 AM


 

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I've got several and sadly they are all from my ex-husband and his family.  When I first got sick I didn't know what was wrong but I knew it was nothing I had ever felt before.  We had gone to dinner with my brother and SIL for their anniversary on February 15th.  When we got home I was so exhausted and had a fever with chills and I just collapsed on the sofa and fell asleep.  I woke up with my husband shaking me, telling me I could go to bed and quit pretending to be sick.  He said "YOU DON'T HAVE TO FAKE BEING SICK TO GET OUT OF PERFORMING YOUR WIFELY DUTIES. I HAD HOPED TO HAVE SEX SINCE IT IS VALENTINE'S DAY AND I PAID FOR YOUR DINNER". 

Months later I showed him how bad RA had affected my elbows - so bad that I could not come close to straigtening out my arm.  He grab my hand and yanked my arm and said YOU JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH THE PAIN.  He also used the old standby excuse of IT'S ALL JUST IN YOUR HEAD and IF YOU KEEP GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND PAYING THEM MONEY WHY AREN'T YOU CURED YET?  I THINK YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR.  Never mind he had never been with me to a doctor's appointment and never even researched RA.

Then his family would always see me at a family function and ask me how I was doing.  If I said anything negative or try to tell them about RA they would reply OH I HAVE THAT TOO. 

On a positive note though I did speak to a co-worker this week and she told me her friend's daughter was just diagnosed with RA.  We discussed her treatment and how long it takes for the medication to take effect and how we RA patients have to be careful about infections.  I said RA is so much more complicated than people realize and she said "I never realized how bad it is.  I apoligize that I wasn't there for you when you were diagnosed.  I was just ignorant about it."  Kinda nice to see the other side too.

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:32 AM


 

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My grandmother, who has OA in her knees and fingers, once told me "I HOPE THAT YOUR ARTHRITIS IS NEVER AS BAD AS MINE."  I just smiled and said, "Oh, Grandma, it's already worse."

Take care,

Shu-Shu

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:00 PM


 

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I had told a few people here at work that I have RA - and last year one of the warehouse guys kept calling me "Crip" - short for CRIPPLE. It really made me mad - I posted a thread about it. Grow up - how old are you?

Then there was a woman I hadnt seen in years (old boyfriend's mother) - I told her I had RA. She asked what the floors at my workplace were made of. I couldnt figure out why? THey are carpeted floors. She told me that "YOU PROBABLY GOT RA FROM STANDING ON CONCRETE FLOORS ALL DAY". Wow - I started to correct her  - then decided that it just wouldn't be worth it - she wouldnt get it.

Age: 33  Female - Diagnosed RA 4/07, Lupus 6/08

Meds: .7cc's MX injectable, 400mg plaquenil daily, folic acid

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:13 PM


 

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I am a nurse and used to work 12 hour shifts at a hospital. I am no longer able to work. I have not worked in over a year. I am currently on disability. Last week my while talking to my sister in law she asked me if I was still on vacation... My reply was that I wish this was a vacation, I have to struggle everyday just to keep my house clean and have dinner on the table.
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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:41 PM


 

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I have a couple....

1. The doctor who couldn't diagnose me, while standing outside of the patient room I was in, waiting for him to come in told his 4th year medical student "I can't find anything wrong, honestly I think it's psychological, maybe you can take a crack at her...."

Yeah, if I wasn't in soo much pain, I would have gotten out of the office a lot faster.

2. My twin sister who walks on water (in her world), after I told her I was diagnosed with RA "I hurt every morning that I get up, you just have to suck it up and keep moving"

3. My dad's comment when my family was all together again for a "reunion", he looked at my twin sister (who has always been overweight) and commented about her gaining more weight. I kind of chuckled, then he turned and looked at me and said "what are laughing at, your catching up to her." I simply stated "Not because I want too or out of laziness,,, mines called RA and drugs, her's is called hand to mouth disease." Ouch.. I know that's why I have the t-shirt that says "I'm the evil twin"

And last but not least.....I went with my SIL, her two children and my daughter who is 8, (7 at the time) to a farmstead / petting zoo. All the kids wanted to hold my hand and do the Wizard of Oz dance like we always do, when my daughter at the top of her lungs screams "No, you can't grab or pull on my mom's hands, she is sick with an old ladies disease, you will break her." Sadly, I laughed at her and told her it was okay. Later that day as I was sitting from too much walking, a lady came over to join me and said she overheard the comment and asked "RA too? huh?"

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:29 PM


 

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The person that understands the most about my suffering is my mom, but even she sometimes irritates me. The most annoying thing she says is this (and it's annoying because it's true) "I KNOW IT'S HARD AND HURTS, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE YOURSELF DO IT ANYWAY" That bothers me because it is usually a housework related issue.
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My husband informs everyone we know that I am the "THROW UP QUEEN" because most of my meds make me sick. Boy sometimes that sounds so condescending sometimes.

These comments hurt me more than what strangers say because they understand that I suffer and they truly love me. They just don't always "get it"

Lisa
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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:59 PM


 

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This is a good thread.

When I first went to see a Dr. for my symptoms, the primary care Dr. immediately suspected RA.  She did a blood test and RA factor came back mildly positive, so she took another blood test.  Second time it came back in the negative range.  Her response to me was, "you don't have RA, you just have good 'ole osteoarthritis.  The good news is 'you'll live' ".   I think she must have overslept the day the professor taught the chapter about bedside manners in med school.   Needless to say I never stepped foot in her practice again. 

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Posted Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:57 PM


 

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I forgot one. When I was diagnosed my doctor said to me "THIS DISEASE WON'T KILL YOU, BUT YOU MAY AT TIMES WISH IT WOULD" No, actually, that isn't stupid I actually like that comment cuz it IS true. But to hear it from the doc was really scary. He wanted me to understand how serious this disease really is and not to listen to stupid people.
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Posted Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:37 AM


 

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This is going to sound bad, but I hope it doesn't offend anyone as I don't mean it in a bad way, but I love this thread. It show's me that I'm not the only one who's gotten the comments that you want to smack someone for. Thank you all who have shared and those who will share.
Lisa, I got a similar comment from my current rheumy, but he wanted to make both my mom and I realize how serious RA (Still's Disease, my version of RA) is. He told us that I can't get sick with anything as it could kill me. If I felt like I was getting sick with anything, cold, flu, or anything else to call his office asap and not to take any chances. I hate that your dr told you that it won't kill you, but it sometimes makes you wish you were, there has to be a better way of saying that. At times I have to agree with it tho, and that's the most irritating thing of all.
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Posted Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:43 AM


 

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I love it too.  I can't think of any comments to add at the moment, but it's unbelievable what's been posted already.





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Posted Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:18 AM


 

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In response to LisaA, "disease won't kill but you may wish it did" from doctor, actually it can kill you-so that was kinda stupid, ha, I went to a new rheumy (once) who on 1st visit said "YOU WON'T MAKE IT TO 65' now I don't mind the truth or educated guesses but to say that on 1st visit after looking at chart for 7 minutes is kinda far fetched.

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Posted Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:54 AM


 

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The all time "favorite" is...

You're TOOOOOOO young...

And...You'll have to LEARN to deal with the pain!

You bet I'm tooooooo young and YES...I've learned A LOT about dealing with the pain and everything else that comes with RA and Fibro!!!!

God Bless all my RA Friends!

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Posted Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:29 AM


 

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Here are a couple of my favorites:

1. The "have you tried..." game, suggesting different holistic treatments because "prescriptions are so bad for your body" Well thanks for that, when did you become a doctor?

2. When on an elevator where the button was pressed for one floor up this guy went on a tirade: "Ok guys, this is just ridiculous. Who is the lazy one on here? There is no reason why any of you can't go up one floor. Let's stop being lazy and maybe some exercise would do more good. I really just can't believe why anyone would feel the need to go up one floor. They should ban that and put a sign up so nobody does it." --Something tells me that if there was someone with a wheelchair on the elevator he would have kept his mouth shut.

3. "You are so much younger than me, why won't you go do X. It would really help me out, my body is getting old." Well sure, let me use my younger body to serve your more able body. Good thinking!

4. "I wake up sore sometimes, but I just get up and move around and everything goes away, you are just being sensitive"

5. The one that hurt most was when I overheard my roommates (and best friends) talk about how I was a hypochondriac and make fun of me for going to the doctor all the time. This was not a one liner, it was an entire conversation about how I was making up not feeling well and I was weak for going to the doctor all the time. Seriously, it was a 20 minute convo. Great friends.

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