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Posted Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:36 AM


 

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Pip, if anyone has done anything illegal I think they should be prosecuted and I think all crime is abhorrent.  However, what does that have to do with this particular legislation?  I feel more moral outrage at our country spending so much money that our country does not have that we assure that our children will be bankrupt.  We have sold our country out by making manufacturing so expensive that most of it has gone overseas and we are living on charity from other countries by increasing our national debt.  I consider this to be the crime of the last hundred years.  God bless.

Age 82, diagnosed RA 12/2001, married since 1952, 4 sons no daughters, 4 grandsons 1 granddaughter.  Doing well on Methotrexate and Remicade.
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Posted Friday, September 04, 2009 1:28 PM


 

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Grandpavan -

I think this has everything to do with this legislation.  Pharma/Insurance Co's have paid 3 Million for this man.  He's going to pick and choose exactly what they want him to say because he's owned by them, not by us, the people that elected him.  And because he toes the line, he'll keep getting more money to keep advancing their interests.  Our studies are 'ghostwritten' do you understand that the PR machines are 'ghostwriting' this guys talking points? 

I cannot believe you are blaming the government for the Lobbyists.  At least we're in agreement on THAT - Bush and his Big Business cronies undid our protections to help them.  We must be in agreement when the new government moves to reign them in.  Oh, wait, we have Bush's Supreme Court quorum and they're about to OK MORE coming $ in to influence politics.  You know - corporations are considered to have a 'voice' now - one vote, one voice OF A COMPANY. 

Pip

Antibiotic Protocol - Minocin, Zithromax, Naproxen (occasionally), 1 mg. Folic Acid.

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Posted Friday, September 04, 2009 5:10 PM


 

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Pip, this shows two things, neither of which deal with the lack of details in the proposed legislation.  I didn't read your charges but for this purpose I will assume that they really happened and are improper.  First, the voters are stupid to elect a person who can be bought and second, the government is at fault either in not making this action illegal or in not prosecuting the action.  This second one shows that the government cannot be trusted to do the right thing without checks and balances so the absence of these in the proposed government option shows that the government option cannot be trusted.

It would help if you would stay on topic.  God bless.

Age 82, diagnosed RA 12/2001, married since 1952, 4 sons no daughters, 4 grandsons 1 granddaughter.  Doing well on Methotrexate and Remicade.

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Posted Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:39 PM


 

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Grandpavan -

This is at least the 5th time you've said you haven't read what was posted which makes me lean to the idea you don't want to know anything that will interfere with whatever you have decided is your position.

The point of this article is that this person is 'cherry picking' facts that support no health care reform.  This person is bought and sold and is using 'facts' cherry picked by his owners. 

The allowance of Big Corporate into politics was allowed by the Republican party on Bush's reign. 

Yet you complain that 'government' allows this? 

Details are important - but we've seen how 'end of life counseling' for people has been turned into 'death panels' by those whose monied interests are on the line.  I think that detail is the most telling. 

Pip

Antibiotic Protocol - Minocin, Zithromax, Naproxen (occasionally), 1 mg. Folic Acid.

Supps are Milk Thistle, Black Cohosh, Bromelain, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium, NAC, B12, Hawthorne, CoQ10, MSM, Tumeric, and weaning Melatonin!  PROBIOTICS, PROBIOTICS, PROBIOTICS!!!

Occassionally Nystatin, Diflucan, GSE, Oil of Oregano still sitting on the counter!

Feel free to PM me about the Antibiotic Protocol~

Healing is a matter of time, but it is sometimes also a matter of opportunity.               Hippocrates 

                         
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Posted Saturday, September 05, 2009 2:34 PM


 

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Pip, you are trying to change the subject and I want to stay on topic.  If you would discuss the topic I would read and respond.  God bless.

Age 82, diagnosed RA 12/2001, married since 1952, 4 sons no daughters, 4 grandsons 1 granddaughter.  Doing well on Methotrexate and Remicade.
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